HOA Foreclosure Play for Big Profits at the County Auction
Many people see other investors buying HOA Foreclosures at County Auction and have no idea what they are thinking or doing. Most assume they bought these as a mistake, but that assumption is only true some of the time. There is a way to make big profits, and we are going to let you in on this guarded secret.
The “auction buy to rent” or “buy an HOA foreclosure” play is still hot, hot, hot! The reason? Low investment with a great return if executed correctly. Florida real estate investing is more competitive than most of the county’s markets as people across the globe are competing for deals here. You need to get creative if you are going to come out ahead in this market!
What is the HOA Foreclosure Play?
It’s a simple idea that can be very profitable. You buy a foreclosure property at auction that has a homeowners association (HOA) as the plaintiff. Once you win the bidding, you rent out the property for as long as possible before it’s foreclosed on by other parties that hold interest — primarily banks with mortgages. You find HOA foreclosures that you can hold on to for as long as possible and make rental income in the meantime.
The math is relatively straightforward. To keep things simple, we have rounded the numbers of the below basic hypothetical example.
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Different variations will bring less or more profit. We have purposely left off insurance, but you may choose (and we would certainly advise) to get a form of liability insurance. All other encumbrances such as future HOA fees and assessments, property taxes, and mortgage payments will not be paid. However, you may have some prior utility payments to take care of for obvious reasons.
It is not unusual for this whole process to make it to the three-year marker. During the housing meltdown of the Great Recession and as recent as five years ago, properties were taking five to six years to get through the courts to a foreclosure auction.
How identify a Good HOA Foreclosure Play?
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1. Find All of the HOA Foreclosures Coming Up for Auction
First, identify all of the upcoming HOA foreclosures so you can rule out any auction that has a bank as a plaintiff. Simply looking at the “Plaintiff” field on PropertyOnion.com’s listings will tell you this, or you can search plaintiff by keywords like “Association” or “Assn” in our filters.
Another technique is using the “More Filters” tool on our site so the results show only final judgments of less than a certain amount. Typically, HOA final judgments are in the $3,000 to $35,000 range.
2. Find HOA Foreclosures Without a Mortgage Lis Pendens
You need to look for a recorded lis pendens, lien, or judgments from the mortgagee or mortgagees. In a perfect world, the mortgagee has not recorded a lis pendens yet. Even if they were to record one immediately, it would take most Florida counties eighteen months to two years (minimum) to bring a successful foreclosure action. With a proficient property attorney by your side, this timeline can be stretched even further. In this best-case scenario, you will not see any lis pendens from the bank when searching official records or looking at the PropertyOnion.com Title Search cover page.
3. Find HOA Foreclosures Without Final Judgments
If a lis pendens has been issued but no final judgment is recorded, you need to check the recorded date of the lis pendens. From there, it usually takes eight weeks for the issuer to record a final judgment. You can calculate this into your timeline to the foreclosure auction.
If a lien has been recorded but no judgment issued, you can count on 14 to 16 months from when the lien was recorded until the property will be foreclosed on at auction.
4. Run Numbers on Each Potential HOA Foreclosure Play
At each point in the process, you can choose a play depending on the information you have gathered. I cannot stress enough that you need a competent real estate attorney to help point, if not steer, you through the process. As a premium member of PropertyOnion.com, you have access to some of the best property attorneys in this arena. You can also download our HOA Foreclosure Deal Analyzer tool and play with the numbers to see if you have a profitable deal and plan your maximum bid.
Go Ahead and “Whack” the Mortgages
You may decide to take the mortgagee out, which means you’ll pay off the mortgage and own the property free and clear.
As the title holder to the property deed, you can approach the mortgagee for a payoff statement once you get your certificate of title. Once received, you can decide whether you want to pay off the mortgage. If you have won a property at auction from an HOA foreclosure that has no recorded encumbrance documents at the county, then it’s best not to approach the mortgagee just yet.
If the mortgagee hasn’t filed a lis pendens, you don’t want to alert them to the recent activity on their property (even though they would have been named as a defendant by the plaintiff on the complaint for judgment at the county court). Due to the vast amount of paperwork going back and forth at most mortgagees’ offices and with no call to action required by the mortgagee, there is a good chance they will remain ignorant. There is no need to alter this position.
You can estimate a mortgage payoff by simply finding the original mortgage note or notes (if there is more than one mortgage) at the county recorder’s office. Looking at the first page or two of the mortgage will show maturity date, and some will even include an amortization schedule toward the end of the document.
By putting the start date and current date into an online amortization calculator and applying an arbitrary percentage rate, you can make a rough estimate of the payoff amount.
The following example is purely theoretical and is just shown to prove this particular principle. However, it is based loosely on a deal carried out by one of our clients.
The key to the above is that the mortgage payoff was low enough to make the deal work. It also helped that this was an estate sale with no known relatives.
Our client is going to rent the property for a year, which will give her some funds for the rehab and allow her to accumulate other cash flow to put toward the deal. She is, however, pondering on whether to refinance through a conventional lending institution (as there is enough equity in the property) or take out a hard money loan (she could use this to buy another one or two HOA foreclosures at the Miami Dade County Foreclosure auction).
The Possibilities Are Endless
There is a veritable feast of possibilities when buying an HOA foreclosure, and we have not even discussed condo association foreclosures. Condo association foreclosures seem to be similar to HOA foreclosures but are completely different due to some added complexities. We will deal with this subject matter in a future article and tutorial.
For now, you have a good overview of how to make a nice profit by closing a few HOA foreclosure deals per year. What most ignore is now another source of deals.
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Update 10/21/2019: After readers reached out and asked about the legality of this investing strategy we had a legal opinion published called “Is Buying Association Foreclosures a Violation of F.S. § 697.08?“
9 thoughts on “HOA Foreclosure Play for Big Profits at the County Auction”
Isn’t this illegal?
Jacob, that’s very interesting and something Jeff Harrington our resident property attorney will make comment/opinion on in the next Monthly Peel. At first read and don’t forget there maybe subsequent statutes, then they should build a jail just for the perpetrators that have been doing this play for decades. This is one of the major plays in the property auction, and one of the very few reasons why investors buy HOA/Condominium foreclosures, I personally have attended REI meetings dedicated to this very subject. Thank you for bring this to our attention I will await Jeff’s deliberations with interest.
It just says you can not do more than 2 properties in a 3 year period.
Fanet, Appreciated, thank you.
Nick, Jeff Harrington wrote an opinion in the legal section of our website ‘Is Buying Association Foreclosures a Violation of F.S. § 697.08?‘
Sorry for the very late reply, I missed the notification, apologies.
While you guy’s have essentially, satisfactorily responded to the forever finder’s of obstacles, albeit I wager not a single question from this topic, comes from working knowledge; I. E. how to circumvent the “Seller Financing” One Property, Dodd Frank Rule Example, to wit, this winning solution will serve both scenarios, even “if” they (PO Investors/Jr POnites, vs Proud Reader’s of stuff. I’m not sure how much room I have to write, however, let’s say that I continue until someone objects and or calls. And to concur with Mr. Hamilton; none of my solutions are to defraud anyone, even the largest defrauding elephants in the room; 30 seconds of digression to share examples of Statute you’d swear the banks drafted and had personally delivered to each member of the House. They have no desire to prosecute anyone who purchases a thousand Association properties “at” or “from” Auctions, especially if two parallel foreclosures are in play; one LP Mortgage Foreclosure (Case #1) and one, LP lien foreclosure, in the same courthouse, same day even, albeit, traditionally vastly different amounts sought this day during each of their Motions & Affidavits Hearings, each Granted and each scheduled for sale dates. In this scenario, bank delays again until ET calls to say that he’s arrived home safely; (actually quite strategic), Association follows through the process and 2 weeks later sells to the highest bidder for $115k, on a $15,000 judgment, (yes, I’m gonna leave you hanging on the $100k). New owners are 2 retired brothers who used to be General Contractors. Enough back story, except for the most disappointing and quite frankly disgusting acts of greed, theft and no better group of fraudsters to be on American Greed. This is much more than 30 seconds and I apologize, therefore, really happened and continues to happen on a daily basis in our entire state of Florida, just think about any variation of buying an auctioned property with the guidance of your local county, regardless if the catalyst is: HOA, COA, POA, CDD, or Construction/Mechanics Lien, etc…. Anything valid, proper Encumbrance that is/are not the lender in the other parallel foreclosure case; Bamb!! Congrats winning bidder, who hurries to the property to meet his prearranged tenant as a rent to own immediate occupant, AND to give he and his brother Contractors money in advance for all materials and they’re ready to go with no labor costs and starting the same day, and acceleration to present day 84, they are 2 days from completion, and see one, then 2 unknown cars and men stepped out, each handing them legal packages, one from the original lender, giving them 90 days to vacate and the other from the new (primary residence) owners, effectively saying go now please, and it’s Christmas 2 weeks…. Oh and we like what you have done with our home, thanks for your hard work, we’ve got an improvement appraisal and you’ve spent approximately $157,000 between auction purchase price and the full renovation, and want to see it remains this way. You’ve got 2 weeks to get the left over material and equipment off their property…… This is our state government protecting our interest. I promise to provide the full details later on everything I have started, and we can start over with taking an assignment of Association debt for this one property, all the way up to every single one of the 78 vacant pre-foreclosure with contact information for each owner…. Make Fields
Lastly for now; Purchaser in everything is a one off transaction by the same Trustee overseeing only one per address, State and Mr. Dodd Frank or Frank Dodd…. I always get that wrong 🙂 Mark Fields
Mark, I have to admit I struggled with your December 29th postings. May I respectfully suggest that for me and anybody else reading, to gain clarity from your determinations, especially entry-level investors to the foreclosure property business, a need to bullet point your strategies is essential. Simplicity is key, and pruning your posting to get a clear understanding is a must. You obviously have something to offer our readers, but it is challenging to determine exactly what it is. Feel free to call me at PO HQ, and I will be happy to discuss this with you. Perhaps there is an article hidden in the words for you to share with everyone.